Central Florida Short Sales: January 2011

Is Paying a 3rd Party Negotiator In A Short Sale. Legal?

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It depends. In Florida you have to have a real estate license to be compensated for a real estate transaction. There are a couple of exceptions (F.S. 475.011) but they do not include negotiators.

Florida Statutes Chapter 475 state:

You must have a real estate license if you are........

  • ...a person who, for another, and for a compensation or valuable consideration directly or indirectly paid or promised, expressly or impliedly, or with an intent to collect or receive a compensation or valuable consideration therefor, appraises, auctions, sells, exchanges, buys, rents, or offers, attempts or agrees to appraise, auction, or negotiate the sale, exchange, purchase, or rental of business enterprises or business opportunities or any real property or any interest in or concerning the same,

In fact, conducting the services of Real Estate, for a fee, without a license, is a 3rd degree felony in Florida.

  • 475.42: A person may not operate as a broker or sales associate without being the holder of a valid and current active license therefor. Any person who violates this paragraph commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, or, if a corporation, as provided in s. 775.083.

And, in order to receive a commission rebate you have to be either the buyer or the seller.

  • Florida Administrative Code rule, 61J2-10.028(2) provides “[t]he sharing of brokerage compensation by a licensee with a party to the real estate transaction with full disclosure to all interested parties is not considered a violation of Chapter 475, Part I Florida Statutes.”

Sooo......if you're not a licensed broker or an attorney quit asking me for compensation. If the short sale lender  or seller wants to hire you to handle their negotiations then I suggest they pay you. I'm not. Is that clear enough?

What say you? Are you paying negotiators out of your commission without doing your homework to make sure it's legal?

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 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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Bank of America Short Sale Success

Lakeland Florida Short Sale

Hi folks. I LOVE successful Short Sale closings. This one had a few issues but I was working with an awesome Buyer's Agent, Evelyn Broxterman, with Keller Williams in Lakeland Florida, she was able to keep the buyer on board for 6 months!! Evelyn is also one of our Short Sale Superstars.

The property:

4 bedroom 2 bath single family home located in Lakeland Florida. It was bought new in 2005 for $190,000 as an investment property.
Liens:

  • Mortgage with Bank of America for $170,000
  • HOA lien for $2,500

Hardship:

Loss of income due to rents dropping and no longer able to find a tenant.

Issues:

This property was placed on the market in May of 2010. It had actually been on the market for several years with another company. For whatever reason they were never able to get it sold.

We placed the property under contract in exactly 60 days. Then the games began. The transaction was submitted through the Equator system. After about 45 days BofA came back asking  the seller for a $2,500 cash contribution and a $5,000 promissory note. We negotiated this down to just the $2,500 cash contribution and all was well......we thought!! Bank of America issued the written approval asking for the $2,500 but now they not only kept the note in the deal but raised it to $15,000!! YIKES! No matter how hard we tried they would not remove the note.

Soooo......I wrote the investor, FannieMae, a letter seeking help since they were the Investor involved in the transaction. Unfortunately they wouldn't help and sent me back to Bank of America.

We kept pushing and pushing and fianlly Bank of America agreed to remove the note requirement and do the deal with the Seller contributing $4,000 in cash. The Seller agreed and the transaction closed.

The property sold for $120,900 and Bank of America accepted $113,000 on the $170,000 that was owed. Or 66 cents on the dollar. Do you need help with your Florida Short Sale?

Tutas Towne Realty has already successfully negotiated Short Sales with the following Lenders.

  • Chase
  • Sun Trust
  • GMAC
  • Wells Fargo
  • Bank of America
  • US Bank
  • PNC Bank
  • Citi
  • HomeEq
  • Fifth Third Bank
  • ING Direct
  • GreenTree
  • Capital One
  • ASC
  • First Horizon
  • E-Trade
  • Transland Financial
  • USA Bank
  • IBM LBPS
  • Nationstar

Can we add you to our list of successful Short Sales? 

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short or stay

Do NOT be foreclosed on! Avoid foreclosure. Short Sales DO close.

Want to find out more? www.CentralFloridaShortSales.com

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The BIO for Bryant Tutas

 

 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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Tips To Help Handle Junior Liens During A Short Sale Transaction

Poinciana Florida ForeclosuresHi folks. I wrote an article a few weeks ago titled "If You're Going To Work Short Sales.....Know How To Get Paid" It was a simple post basically just giving agents a few ideas on how we can get paid when the lender/investor wants to slash the real estate commission. Pop over and give it a read if you haven't.

In the comments section the conversation made it all the way around to POC (paid outside closing) items on the HUD. There are a couple of folks who seem to be having difficulties with POC items and Short Sales. Specifically when it deals with payments to junior liens.

As agents that work short sales know....it is quite common for a 1st lien to state in their approval that they will only give, for example, $6,000 to the junior lien when the junior lien refuses to approve anything less than $12,000. This can create a standoff if you aren't prepared to handle it.

There are several options available:

  • Negotiate. This should be the first line of attack. Keep pressing the matter. Escalate the file to management and keep asking for a compromise. They may give in.
  • Have the Buyer pay the difference. The Buyer could very well pay the extra $6,000 as an added expense on their side of the HUD.
  • The Seller can bring the extra $6,000 to closing and pay the additional $6,000 as an expense.
  • The agents could pay. Or any combination of agents, buyer and seller.

The debate I have been having is how to show this on the HUD1. The folks I have been debating with swear that if this extra money shows up on the HUD that the 1st lien holder will want it. In fact they went so far as to say it was ILLEGAL!! Of course they are not able to back up their statements. Just opinions. That happen to be wrong.

When the 1st lien holder states that they will only allow the junior lien x amonut of money what they are really stating (most of the time) is ".....allowed from the proceeds of the sale". 

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This means than any other party may pay the amount needed. It can be on the HUD as an expense item or a POC item to either the Buyer, Seller or both.

****RESPA requires that POC items show where the money is going. I am not aware of any limits on how much these amounts can be or how many POC items can be on the HUD.

So don't be thrown off your game when you hear "We won't allow" from the short sale lien holder. Just negotiate as far as you can then figure out a solution. Does this make sense?

****Now folks I am NOT a RESPA expert. Nor am I an Attorney. So please do your own homework. And if you know something I have written is wrong please come back and school me so I can learn. Just bring facts NOT opinions. If you can't find anything to back up your stance after days of trying then that's your clue that you may just be wrong.

Are you facing foreclosure in Florida?

Do NOT be foreclosed on! Avoid foreclosure. Short Sales DO close.

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short or stay

Do NOT be foreclosed on! Avoid foreclosure. Short Sales DO close.

Want to find out more? www.CentralFloridaShortSales.com

***I am NOT an Attorney nor do I play one on TV. Click the button below for my Bio.

The BIO for Bryant Tutas

 

 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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Can I Have the "Flight Plan" to do a Short Sale?

 

Hi folks. My partner Wendy posted this article yesterday explaining how there is not one "Flight Plan" when it comes to Short Sales. Each transaction is different with it's on set of challenges.

Wendy and I are hoping that our new Short Sale Agent Training class launching in a few weeks will help agents have a safe landing when working Short Sales.

The destination? A successful closing

 

Via Wendy Rulnick "Its Wendy!" Destin Florida Short Sales (Rulnick Realty, Inc.):

Short sale training

 

 

The other day an agent asked if she could have my “flight plan” to do a short sale. Per Wikipedia, a flight plan is a pilot’s outline of how he will get to his destination, including departure and arrival points, estimated time, alternate airports in case of bad weather, type of flight, etc.  This agent was sure I had such a document for short sales.  She had never had a short sale listing before, and was looking for a checklist.

Well, guess what? There is no “flight plan” that fits every short sale.  Sure, I can tell you the basic steps, but the number of variables would throw that plan off in a heartbeat. You might be trying for Wyoming, but end up in Oregon!  Here are some examples:

1.   The Seller – Every seller’s situation is different.  Bankruptcy? Multiple liens? No hardship? Your approach will change for each circumstance.

2.   The Contract – What is  the  best way to write one to get approval?

3.   The Package – Many short sale lenders have their own forms and different requirements.  Do you know what they are?

4.   The HUD -   Each lender or mortgage type has unique stipulations as to what will be approved on the settlement statement. 

5.    The Lenders – What will the senior lien pay the junior lien, and what will the junior lien accept?

6.    Other Liens – How do you handle tax liens, judgments and association liens?

7.    Cash Contributions and Promissory Notes – When do they come into play?

8.    The Deficiency Judgment– Do you know what it is and if your seller can avoid it?

These are just a few examples of the variables involved in getting a short sale approved.  There are hundreds more.  So what do you do, if you’ve never done a short sale before?    One place to start is  www.ShortSaleSuperstars.com – you’ll find over 5000 agents sharing information about daily short sale situations, problem solving, tips and tricks.

And  for some SERIOUS SHORT SALE TRAINING – watch for the upcoming short sale webinar from me and Broker Bryant.  We'll  be covering not only basics, but in-depth negotiating skills, deal-saving strategies and special short sale situations.  So be your own pilot to short sale success, and learn, know and grow!

Wendy Rulnick and Bryant Tutas
www.ShortSaleSuperStars.com

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The BIO for Bryant Tutas

 

 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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What's The Penalty For Breaking The "Arms Length Transaction Notice"?

Short Sale negotiator

Hi folks. Last year I had a closing for one of my Orlando Short Sale listings. This particular lender required all parties, including the agents, to sign an Arms Length Transaction Notice. This notice basically states.....well here it is. Read it for yourself.

Kissimmee Florida Short Sale

Of course as an experienced Orlando Short Sale Agent and negotiator I explained this notice to the Seller not only at time of listing but also when it was received and before it was signed. It wasn't an issue as the Sellers were moving anyway and they certainly didn't know the Buyer. All parties agreed to the Arms Length Transaction Notice and signed it. Shortly thereafter the transaction closed and all was well.

Recently, and several months after closing, I was driving around and bumped into the Sellers. They were standing in the front yard of their old house. The one we did the Short Sale on!!

I pulled over to say "Hi" only to find out that they did not move and had signed a lease with the Buyer. I guess this all went down after closing. YIKES!!!

So what do we do now? Will the lender find out? Can I be held liable for an act I wasn't aware of? Can the Short Sale be rescinded?

What say you?

Are you facing foreclosure in Florida?

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short or stay

Do NOT be foreclosed on! Avoid foreclosure. Short Sales DO close.

Want to find out more? www.CentralFloridaShortSales.com

***I am NOT an Attorney nor do I play one on TV. Click the button below for my Bio.

The BIO for Bryant Tutas

 

 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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SHORT SALE CONTRACT ADDENDUM FOR 2010 - THE GOOD AND THE UGLY

 

Avoid Florida Foreclosure www.CentralFloridaShortSales.comHi folks. Be careful what you sign. The Short Sale Addendum to the Purchase Contract is a VERY impotant document. Most agents in Florida use one of the 2 addenda below.

As Richard points out there are vast differences in the two. As your Florida Short Sale Broker I will make sure that the right addenda are used and that the Short Sale Purchase Contract will protect you.

And since I am NOT an Attorney and cannot give legal advice I will let Richard's explanation below do it for me.

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Via Richard Zaretsky, Florida Real Estate Attorney (Richard P. Zaretsky P.A. - Bd Certified Real Estate Attorney):

I last addressed the common Florida short sale addenda in WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FAR SHORT SALE LISTING AND CONTRACT ADDENDA - AND HOW YOU CAN FIX IT in November 2008.  Since that time several real estate brokerage agencies have recognized the FAR "oversights" and created their own short sale addenda.  In June and December 2010 we saw major changes in the forms used by the majority of Florida brokers.  This article will discuss the good, the bad and the ugly.

The FAR 2007 Exclusive Listing Agreement will not be discussed - it is the same as discussed in the above article, to the best of my knowledge.  The problems with it remain the same - but are now more seriously carried over to the short sale contract addendum by FAR.

The FAR Short Sale Addendum under date 12/2010 is even worse than the previous versions if you are a Seller.  Here is the form, and my comments will follow:

FAR SS addendum 12 2010

 In paragraph 1 the language is basically unchanged from before.  There is the ambiguous (at best) statement that the Contract is contingent on the Seller's Lender approving the (1) purchase price, (2) terms of the Contract, (3) the settlement statement, and the agreement by the Lender to provide a release of its lien. The paragraph uses the words "release and satisfaction", but "satisfaction of mortgage" documents can say a lot of things - and one of them is that the lien is satisfied but the indebtedness is not released and still due.  In fact, one bank has taken issue even with a "Satisfaction of Mortgage" document recorded with the Clerk that contains language that the "indebtedness is paid in full" - saying that the short sale approval letter that did not specifically provide a release of indebtedness takes precedent over the later recorded satisfaction document!  Until that is settled by a court, I would NOT want my Seller client to rely on the language in paragraph 1 of the short sale addendum that the seller is being released of any indebtedness.

In fact, skipping down to paragraph 5, the Seller is actually acknowledging that Seller may have to bring money to the closing or even be obligated for a deficiency and may have a judgment entered against Seller for that money - yet in the same sentence the document talks about the Lender's forgiveness of the deficiency!  Confusing and why?  Misleading is more like it!

Jumping back to paragraph 3, the first checkbox (which is what most agents use) says that the no deposit is due under the Contract until the Lender Approval.  I am a firm opponent of no deposit contracts, yet this FAR form encourages just such conduct.  We find that 90% of no deposit contracts end in failure - often from the buyer disappearing without even telling their agent.  Without a deposit to even ask to be returned upon Buyer's cancellation for the broad post Lender approval inspection, the buyer simply never tells anyone that it walked from the contract perhaps months prior. See NO DEPOSIT CONTRACT - IS IT A CONTRACT?

The FAR/BAR contract form from June 2010 is a different story - it addresses all the issues raised in my article What's Wrong With The FAR Short Sale Addendum (see link above).  Here is a copy of it.

FAR BAR SS Addendum page 1 6 2010

 (I have left out the 2nd page as it is not germain to this discussion)

Paragraph 1 (in the second paragraph) states in its middle sentence that if the Lender does not provide a complete deficiency release, or if the Lender requires something of the Seller that the Seller does not approve, then the Short Sale Approval is not a short sale approval under the Addendum.  Perfect!  The Short Sale Approval is not a valid approval unless ACCEPTED by the Seller.

In Paragraph 5 the issue of the deposit is addressed.  The deposit (at least the initial deposit) is specifically removed from the contingencies of the Short Sale Approval. Perfect again!  It is the Effective Date that creates the timeline for those preliminary things and obligations.

Both agents and their clients (especially Sellers) need to understand these forms BEFORE they are offered by the agent as part of the Contract documents, and by the Seller and Buyer BEFORE they sign them.  The differences in the two forms are vast and of tremendous importance in their obligation requirements of the Seller.

Copyright 2011 Richard P. Zaretsky, Esq.

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Be sure to contact your own attorney for your state laws, and always consult your own attorney on any legal decision you need to make.  This article is for information purposes and is not specific advice to any one reader.

Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660   email: RPZ99@Florida-Counsel.com  - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers and Sellers with Short Sales and Modifications and Consult with Brokers and Sellers Nationwide!  Shortsales@Florida-Counsel.com   New Website www.Florida-Counsel.com

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 Tutas Towne Realty, Inc handles Florida real estate sales, Florida short sales, Florida strategic short sales, Florida pre-foreclosure sales, Florida foreclosures in Kissimmee Florida Short Sales, Davenport Florida Short Sales, Haines City Florida Short Sales, Poinciana Florida Short Sales, Solivita Florida Short Sales,  Orlando Florida Short Sales, Celebration Florida Short Sales, Winderemere Florida Short Sales. Serving all of Polk, Osceola and Orange Counties Florida. Florida Short Sale Broker. Short Sale Florida.

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